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What's behind the media
by Ryan Dawson

Well the major networks are all owned by different corporations.
These corporations have vested interest in the largest umbrella corporation on earth, the Military industrial complex, or one might say the industries involved in weapons manufacturing, reconstruction, energy, ect everything that has a pay check tied to the allocation of money to the military. Corporations have "Boards of Directors" However the same people may serve on multiple "Board of Directors." and they do as I will explain.

For Example CBS is owned by Viacom so is MTV, VH1, and Nickelodeon. It's not just the news but the sitcoms and such as well that are part of the propaganda. Viacom is owned by Sumner Redstone. (originally Murray Rothstein) CNN is owned by AOl-TimeWarner. Warner Brothers is owned by Gerald Levin who is also part of the Trilateral commission. ABC is owned by Disney. Disney is owned by Michael Eisner. Fox is owned by the Rupert Murdoch News Corporation. MSNBC is obvioulsy influenced by Microsoft who holds 18% of the company but it was founded by none other than the corporate welfare sucking G.E. (who is deeply invested in the Israeli occupation). GE Universal is run by Edgar Bronfman, Jr the son of Edgar Bronfman president of the World Jewish Congress.

Members of the Board of Directors of these corporations sit on the BOD of the weapons manufactures and mega companies like Texaco, Chevron, Boeing, Lockheed, Citigroup, Rockwell Automation, Chase, Worldcom, and JP Morgan, Haliburton etc.

Some are even in the government. For Example Chevron/Texco merged with Unocal who got the largest and first no-bid contracts from Afghanistan. The Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, was on the Board of Directors for Chevron/Texaco. They even named an oil tanker after her.

Lets look at some of this mess.
BOEING

John H. Biggs sits on the board of directors for both Boeing and JP Morgan & Chase. How nice to direct both a company and two banks. John E. Bryson is on the BOD with Boeing and also He is a director of The Walt Disney Company, who owns ABC. Linda Z. Cook the CEO of Shell is also on the BOD of Boeing.
more on boeing here disgusting isn't it.

Lockheed
Lockheed is comprised of mainly ex-military and x-government employees in the defense industry. They got caught in the 70s financing the right-wing party the LDP in Japan who has open connections ot the Yakuza the Mafia times 100. Check out the Kodama Lackheed scandal. They paid this mobster Kodama of the Yamaguchi-gume Yakuza wing (the largest one) 2 million in 1976 dollars to swing contracts for Lockheed. It's a well known scandal in Japan as it was so disgraceful that 1)the Japanese government is full of mafia and 2) they got money from the very same company that built the planes that dropped the atomic bombs on Japan.
more here

Dick (45 million in Halliburton) Cheney's wife was on the BOD of Lockheed until 2001! Unbelievable, and Lockheed for the past 7 years in a row has gotten the largest government contracts normally tens of billions. Here is a list from 2005 back to 2000. As you can see Boein is in second every year.

Top 20 Defense contracts for 2005


Top 20 Defense contracts for 2005

1 Lockheed Martin Corp. $20 billion
2 Boeing Co. 18.8 billion
3 Northrop Grumman Corp. 13.7 billion
4 General Dynamics Corp. 11.1 billion
5 Raytheon Co. 9.4 billion
6 Halliburton Co. 5.9 billion
7 United Technologies Corp. 4.9 billion
8 L-3 Communications Holdings 4.8 billion
9 Carlyle Group 2.7 billion
10 SAIC 2.7 billion
11 BAE Systems 2.6 billion
12 General Electric Co. 2.5 billion
13 Computer Sciences Corp. 2.4 billion
14 Humana Inc. 2.2 billion
15 Textron Inc. 2.1 billion
16 Occupational Health Services 2 billion
17 ITT Industries 1.9 billion
18 Triwest Healthcare Alliance Co. 1.8 billion
19 URS Corp. 1.5 Billion
20 Bechtel Group Inc. 1.5 billion

Top 20 defense contracts for 2004

Lockheed Martin Corporation $20,690,912,117
The Boeing Company $17,066,412,718
Northrup Grumman Corporation $11,894,090,277
General Dynamics Corporation $9,563,280,236
Raytheon Company $8,472,813,918
Halliburton Company $7,996,793,706
United Technologies Corporation $5,056,937,646
Science Applications International $2,450,781,108
Computer Sciences Corporation $2,390,806,128
Humana, INC $2,372,078,226
L-3 Communications Holding, INC $2,260,292,852
BAE Systems PLC $2,192,647,377
Health Net, INC $1,899,824,940
General Electric Company, INC $1,822,720,199
Bechtel Group, INC $1,742,470,267
Bell Boeing Joint Program $1,539,815,440
ITT Industries, INC $1,539,742,075
Electronic Data Systems Corp $1,538,272,307
Honeywell International, INC $1,462,914,723
Carlyle Group $1,442,680,416


Top 10 defense contracts in 2002 before the Iraq war.

1 Lockheed Martin Corp. $17.0 billion
2 Boeing Co. $16.6 billion
3 Northrop Grumman Corp. $8.7 billion
4 Raytheon Co. $7.0 billion
5 General Dynamics Corp. $7.0 billion
6 United Technologies Corp. $3.6 billion
7 Science Applications International Corp. $2.1 billion
8 TRW Inc. $2.0 billion
9 Health Net, Inc. $1.7 billion
10L-3 Communications Holdings, Inc. $1.7 billion

2001

1 15. Billion Lockheed Martin Corp. 15,130,223,000
2 13. Billion Boeing Co. 13,595,338,000
3 11. Billion Northrop Grumman Corp. 11,122,116,000
4 5.8 Billion Raytheon Co. 5,875,142,000
5 5.5 Billion General Dynamics Corp. 5,213,835,000
6 3.6 Billion United Technologies Corp. 3,678,345 ,000
7 1.9 Billion TRW Inc. 1,970,383,000
8 1.7 Billion SAIC 1,774,863,000
9 1.6 Billion General Electric Co. 1,682,903,000
10 1.4 Billion Carlyle Group 1,413,968,000

As you can See every Year Lockheen Martain is at the top by a large gap followed by Boeing and Northrup Grumman Corporation. Notice that Carlyle and General Electric and Halliburton are in there as well. We are giving them BILLIONS, actually tens of Billions Almost as much as what Churches send to Israel. Please now read this

I got these figures from their own fricking websites. Go ahead and comb them with a fine tooth comb. These are not secrets. This is right out in the open. These are not secret societies, these are companies in the MIC who profiteer from war and who own our mass media.

Lets look at number 3 Northop Grumman Corp.

They also have a hand in glove relationship with the government. They have been in the government.

Vic Fazio
Senior Advisor at Northrop

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"Vic Fazio served as a Member of Congress for 20 years representing California's third congressional district. During that time, he served as a member of the Armed Services, Budget and Ethics Committees and was a member of the House Appropriations Committee where he served as Subcommittee Chair or ranking member for 18 years
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Kevin Sharner and Philip Frost both on the BOD at Northrop are or have been on the BOD of major Pharmaceutical companies.

It just gets more nasty the more you look


I will let you look up the rest on your own. Just grab some of the names from these list and look at their BODs. Needless to say they are all one happy corporate killing family. Nothing makes them more money than warfare. And nothing is currently a larger cash cow than the Zionist occupation of Palestine which also has the financing of super right wing Christian churches who get the benefit of air time from the networks for preaching the message that is best for the warmongers and investing their money into their stocks. More on that whole mess and the iron triangle etc here

Multi-national corporations run our press and government. They tie back to the privately owned central banks. long story short the MSM is full of shit.

Wanna to see more on the MIC?

Defense spending

Our senate voted on the new bill for Defense spending 100 for and 0 against it. That's 100% for giving more money to the MIC and ZERO opposition.

some interesting parts

(Sec. 8024) Authorizes DOD to incur obligations of up to $350 million for DOD military compensation, construction projects, and supplies and services in anticipation of receipts of contributions from the government of Kuwait. -source

(Sec. 8082) Earmarks specified RDT&E funds for producing Arrow missile components in the United States and Arrow missile components and missiles in Israel to meet Israel's defense requirements. -source

There was this Amendment, but it got rejected.

S.AMDT.4875 to H.R.5631 To increase by $200,000,000 the amount appropriated or otherwise made available by title IX for the purpose of supplying needed humanitarian assistance to the innocent Lebanese and Israeli civilians who have been affected by the hostilities between Hezbollah and the Government of Israel.

8/3/2006 Amendment SA 4875 ruled out of order by the chair -source click Amendments and go to the very bottom of the page.

They can spend money to build missile but not to help civilians wounded or left homeless by missiles Israel used of a civilian population in Lebanon. The Amendment said SIraeli and Lebanese civilians the problem being Lebanon had 2.5 billion damages and Israel specifically targeted civilian areas where as Hezbollah didn't.

And nothing is covered with more of a bias than the occupation of Palestine. THE KEY ISSUE. watch a long film on that here or a short film here

911 was a spring board for these on going wars. You already know why the press wont touch it. So WHO do you think took part in 911??? My answer here.

The MIC overlaps with the Zionism as half the CFRs are PNAC authors and all Zionist. The ugly 'Mega' Zionist Ricahrd Perle (PNAC founder) and the Super Zionist, wormy five foot two Henry Kissinger (the first choice to head up the 911 commission whose credibility is so poor that he had to decline the offer) set up something called the Trireme Partners company. They raise venture capital from wealthy individuals and invest it into weapon companies, who they bet will get lucrative government contracts and thus raise their stock prices. But they know who getting the contracts, it's insider trading. The defense industries and the companies under that massive umbrella corporation normally have ties to government employees. Kissinger didn't call it insider trading, he called it 'guaranteed speculation'.

The Zionist feed into the MIC. And the conflict in Israel with basically the entire Middle East is a cash cow for the military investments. It creates the demand.
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These companies are not simply just American companies, most of them are multi-national with no loyalties to anyone aside from whichever government is the current medium they can use to pipe them money. And the money awarded to the companies by the State issued (aka communism, yes welcome to the USSA) contracts is not just the allocation of our tax money, the government is spending way more than that (even when military spending consist of over half our tax money!). They are borrowing money by buying bonds from the Federal Reserve, which they have to pay interest on, in order to pay for the MIC pork projects and blood for oil and ethnic cleansing campaigns. We have created a 8.5 trillion dollar national debt. The Central banks as you know are rooted back to the same Zionists who wrote the plans for foreign policy (PNAC and ISCB) and collect from the investors. The largest investor of them all is not the wealthy individuals; it's the multi billion dollar tax free institutions more popularly known as Protestant Churches.

Here is where it gets nasty. Religion has been perverted. The Christian-crazies are the kind of Christians who get to be on TV because they promote what is profitable for the government and themselves, are bankrolling the Zionist occupation and the yummy military related conflicts/projects it creates. Sane Christians don't get to have a TV show like Pat Robertson. Obviously the corrupt churches who pocket money are the ones who are going to rise in voice and power that is a no-brainer.

These people then promote the bigotry behind the "Settlements" and their racist attitudes. They can manipulate their flocks to vote for people like G.W. as they did in 2004 largely based on prejudice towards homosexuals. Christian Zionist have a happy alliance with the Jewish Zionists. They are not just using this to make money either. They are actually backwards enough that they believe all that "temple on the mount" rhetoric.

Tied to all of this is the corporate media and the banks. See the links. Wanna know what really happened on 911 go here. And no it was not satanic groups, the Vatican, or the "illuminati."

We have a multi layered problem in the US. The Media is corporately owned and the corporations are tied by the short hairs to the military industrial complex which are tied to the banks as they pat one another's backs, the military doesn't have to pay the banks the public does via taxes and inflation, so the military industries don't care. The other two layers are the equity firms and the religious institutions that use their wealth to inflate the stock market at the expense of killing children and ruining nations.

The solution is not east. The first step however is to support alternative media like this site and others and if you are an American then you absolutely must vote in the coming congressional election. Here is a list of who is running on an anti-war ticket. Some of these are just "better than what you have now cases" and some are really good. All of them however are a step in the right direction. We need to bring these war pigs down.

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Redstone, Levin, Eisner, and Edgar Bronfman Jr. are all Jewish Zionst. Murdoch is not Jewish as far as I know but he is ceratinly a Zionst. It is strange because I think some of his people are both Anti-Semites and Zionist. Let me explain. They Hate Jewish people (or any non Christian) but they Hate Arabs and Muslims even more. They support Israel but not Jews. Well we all know that the state of Israel is not good for Jews or Muslims.

I'm just pointing this out before some nut says hey they are all Jeiwsh and goes on stuff off topic elders of zion like rant.

I agree with Ry its the MIC and all the tied in copmpanies. They also acted that way before TV was even invented. The US has always gone to war for corporate interest.

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This should answer ur question.

Another year has passed by since the September 11, 2001 attacks on the U.S. What has been gradually happening is that more and more the initial mainstream media version of what happened on that gruesome day is proving to be less true. Increasing credible and respected people such as scientists, ex-governmental officials, religious leaders, journalists and others are PUBLICLY coming out with information that refutes the mainstream media version of events. What is more interesting is that besides being called “kooks” and the information presented being called “conspiracy theories”, the substance of the new information debunking mainstream media is going unchallenged! The new information about 911 and the ones presenting it are being called all kinds of names but the information being presented is not being challenged or proven in anyway to be false.

Furthermore, after all these years after 911 the FBI has not uncovered any Al Qaeda cells in the United States nor has it found any paper trail. Although thousands of Muslims have been arrested not one has been convicted of acts of terrorism. The London Times reported the following one year after 911 and it is still true today:

"Thousands of FBI agents have rounded up more than 1,300 suspects across America since September 11, but they have failed to find a single Al-Qaeda cell operating in the United States...Tom Ridge, Director of Homeland Security could not explain why none had been caught."

Curiously though, according to FOX news, throughout late 2000 and 2001, a total of 200 Israeli spies were arrested. It was the largest spy ring to be uncovered in the history of the US. The Washington Post also reported that some of these Israelis were arrested in connection with the 9-11 investigation. Carl Cameron of FOX News Channel did an excellent four part, nationally televised, series of investigations into this blockbuster scandal. But FOX pulled the investigative series after Zionist groups complained to FOX executives. FOX even went so far as to remove the written transcripts of the series from its website!

The question that each individual needs to answer is what should we do as thinking, rational and reasonable people? Should we give into the herd mentality and continue to blindly believe the mainstream media version of events or should we act like truly reasonable, rational and thinking people and examine the evidence on both sides in order to ascertain the truth? After all someone had to question and and break from the herd perception and look at evidence to ascertain that the world was not flat!

I have written this essay to present both views -- the mainstream media version that led us to believe that OBL and Al-Qaeda did 911 versus the version based on uncovering facts surrounding Israeli and American government involvement. I want you to objectively look at both and think deeply about what is being presented. Go to the links and investigate further. Then make a decision for yourself regarding which is more credible. You will find the facts I present to be unquestionably true but my comments biased. I hope that won’t bother you. I am definitely of the opinion that it was Israelis along with corrupt elements in our government who were responsible for doing 911 as most of you reading this essay may believe about OBL and Al-Qaeda doing it!

1. The Mainstream Version

Let me share with you mainstream media "evidences" used to link 19 Arabs to doing 911. Besides this, there is the "so-called" proof that President Bush claim to have that was never shown to the American people but supposedly shown to Musharraf in Pakistan, who now publicly states that he has doubts. Here is a list of the evidences we were made to believe was sufficient proof linking OBL and Al-Qaeda to 911:

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Like assailants who, in their preparations, leave tracks behind them like a herd of stampeding elephants?

The 911 hijackers made payments with credit cards with their own names; they reported to their flight instructors with their own names.

They left behind rented cars with flight manuals in Arabic for jumbo jets. They took with them, on their suicide trip, wills and farewell letters, which fall into the hands of the FBI, because they were stored in the wrong place and wrongly addressed.

Clues were left like behind like in a child's game of hide-and-seek, which were to be followed!

One writer wrote the following about the discovery of Mohammed Atta’s passport for a domestic flight for which a passport was not necessary.

The Magic Passport Theory

We can now add Mohamed Atta's reality-defying passport to the Arlen Specter Gallery of Improbable Projectiles. This incriminating item was thrown intact from a cataclysmic fireball and miraculously plucked from 1.6 million tons of debris in a matter of hours. The corporate media rarely mention the unlikelihood of this. Many in the alternative press, though, are unafraid to draw an obvious, albeit taboo, inference: that the Atta passport is planted evidence. According to Washington, DC, peace activist John Judge, other potential plants include the Arabic-language flight manuals left in one of the hijackers' cars (with note: The discussion of the flight manuals begins at around 13:30). These manuals could serve no useful purpose at such a late stage unless the hijackers planned to finish learning how to fly during a half-hour ride to the airport. But as deliberately placed articles, they are as if a signed diary called "My Plan to Kill the President" had been unearthed in Lee Harvey Oswald's flat. Also high on the possible planted evidence list is a spiritual manifesto for the Al Qaeda kamikaze pilots, which, to journalist Robert Fisk, sounds an awful lot like it was written by a God-fearing Christian.
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Wow!!! I guess somehow Mohammed Atta was able to open a window on the plane and throw out his passport at the right time so that it won’t be destroyed as the plane’s black boxes were. Such accuracy and precision to let the world know of his guilt is truly amazing.

Then there are the Bin Laden videos. How convenient! We happen to be living in a video-centric world. Most of what people are exposed to and believe comes from watching TV. How wonderful and convenient it must be to find out that Bin Laden left proof of his guilt on video for consumption by a video-centric world. I guess if we were living in a world where smoke signals was the primary means of communication we would have found the correct smoke signals left by Bin Laden to correctly identify him as the perpetrator of 911.

But alas the Bin Laden videos were proven to be fake! But our honest media that made such a big fuss about showing the false videos never went back and told the American public that they had shown the world fake videos. Nawww, they did not want to because it did not serve their purpose. Here is what some Professionals who examined the videos wrote about them:

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Professor Gernot Rotter, scholar of Islamic and Arabic Studies, Asia-Africa Institute, University of Hamburg: "Regardless of the question if bin Laden personally was actively involved in the organization of the attacks or not: This tape is of such poor quality that many passages are unintelligible. And those that are intelligible have often been taken out of context, so that you can't use that as evidence. The American translators who listened to the tape and transcribed it obviously added things that they wanted to hear in many places. Things that can't be heard - never mind how often you listen to it.

”Guilty or not guilty? If the US government wants to find bin Laden guilty of the deed, they have to come up with better evidence.

"And look: the English translation that the US government presented to the world is not only manipulated in parts, but even contains mistakes. A report from Ekkehard Sieker and Georg Restle."

Dr. Abdel El M. Husseini, scholar in Arabic culture/language: "I carefully checked the Pentagon translation. The translation is very problematic. The passages that are the most important, the ones that are supposed to prove bin Laden's guilt, are not identical to the Arabic sound."

http://www.unansweredquestions.org/time ... 22001.html
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Never mind also that in Bin Laden’s last interview for the BBC with Carol Valentine, he denounced the attacks and stated that he had nothing to do with the killing of innocent people on 911. But since this was a story that had to be read most people don’t know about that because it did not come in the form of “smoke signals” -- sorry I mean videos. I elaborate more about this below.

All of what is stated above was reported in mainstream media as "evidences" linking the 19 Arabs to 911. This is what most people were told and from this type of evidence most people believe OBL and Al-Qaeda did 911. I welcome anyone reading this article who have more to go on than what was presented above that causes them to believe that 911 was done by OBL and 19 Arabs to please share it with us?


Now let’s compare this to the mountain of evidence below implicating the Israelis and corrupt elements in our government. After doing so ask yourself seriously which is more believable. Again, I have references from main stream media sources to everything listed below. If you question anything please let me know and I will point you to the source.



2. Israelis and Corrupt Elements in the US Government Guilty Version

Here is a partial listing and involvement with events surrounding 911 that Israelis were involved with that no other country or organization in the world including the U.S. can match. Not only numerous but each involvement is quite significant in importance:

1. It was Israelis who were caught watching the WTC burn and crumble and celebrating it with joy. When the Lakers beat Sacramento for the NBA crown they celebrated. Why? Because their efforts were successful! The event, which was the championship game, they won. The Israelis, according to eye witnesses who saw them on top of the van were ecstatic. They were joyful and why you ask? Because of America’s misery, America’s lost and thousands of innocent lives perishing. But to the Israelis this was success. They were ecstatic with joy because they too won the championship game!

Even when these Israelis were in FBI custody they failed numerous lie detector tests. In fact they did not pass a single one.

To show that this joy was not local only to the 5 Israelis, look at what was said by and about their leaders:

Reactions from the Israeli side to the September attack:

Ehud Sprinzak, terrorism expert at Hebrew University in Jerusalem, said "From the perspective of Israelis, it is the most important public relations act ever committed in our favor."

The attack "was good for the Israelis," "It is very good", said Benjamin Netanyahu...before he caught himself and amended his statement.

In an interview with Le Monde, Ami Ayalon, former Head of the Israeli Militia for Israel, stated: "Since September 11, our leaders have been euphoric."

The reason why the Israelis failed lie detector tests is because the truth that they could not admit was we planned this. We pulled it off. We successfully created a Pearl Harbor incident to get the stupid goyim fully in bed with us. And just like we did in the time of Christ we are going to do today. We will get our media fully in bed with us to blame someone else for the crime. Yeah we were caught in the Lavon Affair, USS Liberty, etc. But we are ready now. The stakes are too high.


2. It was Israelis whose van was stopped and maps and other paraphernalia were found leading the FBI to believe that they had definite involvement with 911.

3. It was the Israeli owner of the Moving van company that immediately shutdown his business, put his house up for sale and fled to Israel when his employees were caught. Aren’t these drastic actions and shouldn’t we want to know why the owner behaved that way?

4. It was Israelis who were caught spying on the US and lived in the same vicinity as the supposed “hijackers”.

5. It was Israelis who were about 200 spies in a spy ring that Carl Cameron reported about in FOXX News saying that government officials stated that they had “tie-ins” to 911. By the way this news was suppressed and the story taken off the Foxx News website. The people responsible for that were JINSA (the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs). JINSA President and CEO David Steinmann is also a director of CAMERA (Committee for Accurate Middle East Reporting in America), the group that actually staged the e-mail, fax, letter, and phone call mobilization that squeezed Fox TV, to the point that they removed the transcripts of the four Carl Cameron segments from their own web site. I wonder why these American Israelis were interested in doing such a thing?

The FOX series and other mainstream news media sources revealed that many of these Israelis were army veterans with electronics and explosives expertise. Many of them failed lie detector tests. Dr. Steven E. Jones, professor of physics at BYU and Kevin Ryan, former lab manager and scientist at Underwriters Labs -- the company that tested the steel used in the World Trade Center buildings, and fired Kevin Ryan when he went public with information about a cover-up – have shown conclusive proofs that the collapsed of the WTC buildings were due to thermite and explosives and NOT as a result of the planes crashing into them. Could it be that these scientists have uncovered in later years one of the real purposes for the Israeli spy network presence in the US in 2001?


6. It was Israelis who the following was reported about by U.S. government authorities when the Israeli spies were found: “An Israeli government spokesman reported a few days ago the news of arresting a number of Israelis by the US intelligence bodies in Florida. This might seem strange but what is more significant is the deliberate ignorance by the Israeli government of the reason for the arrests. The Israelis did not even mention the reason or the case for which their subjects were detained. The point is that a big quantity of the Anthrax germ was held with the Israelis when they were arrested. Moreover, the detainees had 15 charts of the New York Trade Center and eight charts of the Pentagon building which were attacked on September 11th. This is in addition to other six charts of the White House, which was among the would-be targets of the September 11th attacks. According to discreet US reports, the charts found with the Israelis had accurately drawn the Pentagon building and the World Trade Center and defined their geometric projections, as well as, precisely depicted the many floors. Further, some data included in the charts define the itineraries of civil passenger planes and their destinations!!!...”

7. It was Israelis who the Jerusalem Post on September 12, 2001 reported 4000 missing or expected to be dead as a result of doing business and working at the WTC on 911.

8. It was the Israeli general counsel Alon Pinkas who reported that out of the 4000 Israelis dead or missing actually only one was killed, a visitor. The statistics of this happening is IMPOSSIBLE. The only reason this could happen is if somehow Israelis were warned ahead of time about the planes crashing into the WTC. The natural question to ask is, are there any evidence of prior warnings of the impending WTC attacks given to anyone in the world? If there is let’s narrow the list down to see if any warnings happen to be given to Israelis. Well it just so happens that there were prior warnings and the only people in the world to receive them were Israelis!!!!

9. It was Israelis who received Odigo warnings two hours before the planes struck the WTC buildings. This was reported both in the Ha’aertz and Washington Post newspapers. This is proof positive that someone who cares for the lives of Israelis knew that planes were going to be crashed into the WTC ahead of time and wanted to make sure Israelis were not killed. I am sure the identity of that person was not Bin laden. This succinctly explains why only one Israeli got killed on 911 although the number was expected to be as much as 4000.

10. It was Israelis who were armed with 9mm pistols, nine grenades, C-4 explosives, three detonators and 58 bullets and caught in Mexico in an attempt to blow the Mexican Congress up on October 10, 2001, one month after 911. Curiously these Israelis were found with Pakistani passports in their possession. The Israelis were booked for conspiracy to destroy a building by means of an explosive by the Mexican police. If they were successful in blowing up the Mexican Congress -- leaving the Pakistani passports where they could be found by the authorities -- would like 911, have been blamed on Muslim terrorists. They got caught red-handed here and only G-d knows how many other incidents innocent Muslims are being blamed for that were really done by Israelis.

11. Pakistani General Gul, who at one time was a close ally of the U.S. and a staunch supporter of Western values -- who could have blamed 911 on his Russian or Indian enemies -- instead chose to blame 911 on Israelis. This former director of the Pakistani Intelligence Service said un-categorically about 911 that “The Israeli Mossad and its American associates are the obvious culprits.” Why did he just happen to also blame Israelis? Why didn’t he blame India or Russia who were far worse enemies to Pakistan than Israelis? This was a man who was close to the American Secret Service leaders and their ally. How come he seems to know what Vreeland and other CIA operatives worldwide knew about 911?

12. The news about the impending attacks was known by even low ranking CIA agents like Delmart Vreeland. To prove it he wrote what was going to happen in August, 2001 in a sealed envelope while in prison in Canada and had his guards open the envelope on September 14th. Lo and behold he accurately predicted the attacks of 911. If he knew about this I am certain that many others in the CIA especially at higher levels knew about it also. As such this was a deliberate planned action set up to create a Pearl Harbor type event to cause the American government to take actions that the planners of this event wanted. With the complicity of the Israeli controlled news media the finger was solidly pointed on OBL, Al-Qaeda and the Taliban. They did not allow any suspicion to be pointed anywhere else. How convenient!!!

As an example of the many reports throughout the world implicating Israeli involvement in 911, here is a partial text of one from Canada’s Stern-Intel on September 17, 2001:

”A US military intelligence source revealed details of an internal intelligence memo that points to the Israeli Mossad intelligence service having links to the World Trade Centre and Pentagon attacks.”

13. A report from the German external intelligence agency, the Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND) states the following: German intelligence detected plans for an attack on the United States, to take place on September 10 or 11, 2001. Israel was aware of the plans and wished the attack to take place without hindrance. The German ambassador informed the President of the US of the impending attacks. He thanked the ambassador and said that he already knew. Subsequently, his administration urgently requested the suppression of information on this warning.

14. The U.S. Army School for Advanced Military Studies (SAMS), wrote this about the Israeli Mossad which was reported about on September 10, 2001 one day before 911:

"Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target U.S. forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act."

BINGO! The very next day an “Arab act” took place against the U.S. and no suspicion or investigation was done based on this credible report from SAMS. As I said the finger was so firmly pointed against Bin Laden that even intelligent people were so suffocated by the Israeli controlled press that no other questions were entertained.

15. It was a Zionist owned company, Metals Management, and a life time Zionist Mayor of N.Y. who was responsible for so quickly removing the steel evidence from the WTC such that no investigation could be done on whether or not the WTC steel beams melted from heat or due to bombs going off that caused the WTC to crash. Dr. Frederick W. Mowrer from the Fire Engineering department at the University of Maryland told the New York Times: "I find the speed with which important evidence has been removed and recycled to be appalling."

16. Although the planes used to crash into the WTC could have flown from La Guardia, Kennedy, or some nearer airport, they chose to fly from Boston’s Logan airport which was much further away from the WTC. Doing this lengthened the time to the destination making it easier for NORAD to intercept the planes. Why this was done? It was because an Israeli company, ICTS International, controlled airport security at Boston Logan airport.


17. An abnormal amount of put stock options were purchased against United and American Airlines right before 911. Gee whiz I wonder why British Airways, Southwest Airlines, Continental or other Airlines did not have abnormally large amounts of put stock options purchases also? Why did it just so happen to be from the two airlines that were involved with the 911 incident? It was reported that many Israelis and even an ex-CIA director from Deutsche bank made huge profits on the purchase. One person made as much as $2,500,000.00 on the deal and when last reported did not come to pick up his money. How did all these people know that American and United Airlines stocks will drop so dramatically in value the next day???

Not only airline stocks but according to the Barnes Review, “ Between August 26 and September 11, 2001, a group of speculators, identified by the American Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) as Israeli citizens, sold “short” a list of 38 stocks that could reasonably be expected to fall in value as a result of the pending attacks. These speculators operated out of the Toronto, Canada and Frankfurt, Germany, stock exchanges and their profits were specifically stated to be “in the millions of dollars.”

http://tbrnews.org/Archives/a048.htm


I ask the same question as Michael Shore does in the following paragraph, Why? Also why did this story just drop from the media and no follow up was done? Another example of the media in cahoots with the planners of 911 to deflect attention from the obvious and keep the Americans firmly fixated on OBL/Al-Qaeda as the only possibility for 911.

”It would seem easy enough for the FBI and CIA to go to the stockbrokers where these trades were made and find out who made them. This is probably the closest link that can be established to someone who was involved in 911 but neither the FBI nor CIA is, apparently, pursuing this. Why?”

18. When Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hizbollah and other Palestinian groups commit acts of freedom against the brutal Israeli regime, no matter how small the numbers they kill of the enemy they take responsibility for it. That has been their pattern for a long time. Now the largest attack killing the most amount of “the enemy” Americans, instead of OBL boasting about it and even cheering like the Israelis did at the WTC he said the following: "I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks....The American system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States. "

http://www.public-action.com/911/oblintrv.html

This is quite significant because as successful as this act was it would have been something for OBL to boast about but instead he condemns it and distances himself from it. Very unlikely behavior for someone guilty and who would normally gloat at such a major accomplishment. The U.S. government claimed that it had proof which they never showed any of us. They claimed that they showed it to the Pakistani President but he also came out with a statement claiming that he believes that there is no way that OBL could have pulled off 911 alone. What happened to the proof?

19. Financially it was Israelis who profited handsomely from the destruction of the WTC. Larry Silverstein, a Zionist Jew whose company acquired the 99 year lease for the WTC got an insurance payment for more than 4.6 billion dollars for 2 attacks on the WTC on 911. Incidentally he acquired the lease 6 months before the 911 attacks and just “happened” to fully insure it against terrorist attacks.

Another Israeli by the name of Frank Lowy, chairman and founder of Westfield Holdings, had recently acquired the 99-year lease for the 425,000 square foot retail portion of World Trade Center before the WTC attacks of Sept. 11, according to The Jerusalem Post . He too also fully insured his lease against terrorist attacks and will also be paid billions.




So in regards to 911 we find Israelis involved with many things. Strange wouldn’t you say that we don’t find Russians, Saudis, Italians, Pakistanis or even Africans involved with events related to 911 as Israelis. Isn’t it just coincidental that the people involved just happens to be Israelis.

With all this evidence of Israeli involvement, corrupt U.S. government officials involvement and media complicity in covering and even dropping information that should be pursued and thoroughly investigated I ask the question why, why in the hell is any of this not being investigated? This is a mountain of evidence. Other evidence not discussed but also valid is the many reports showing evidence that the WTC was blown up from within explaining how the buildings fell, no video or stills of any of the hijackers at Logan Airport, how did the U.S. government identify so quickly the identities of the hijackers and was able to fix the blame on OBL just a few hours after the event, the fact that 7 of the hijackers identified are still alive today, the many false reports about terrorists identities like the one of a Pakistani man who never left Pakistan in his life having his picture publicly broadcasted in the media, and I could go on and on.

The only logical conclusion that a reasonable person can arrive at is this: The 9-11 attacks, the anthrax murders, and numerous other foiled terror plots, were planned, orchestrated, financed, carried out, and covered up by the forces of Israel. What other logical explanation can there be?

What we have been told officially about 911 has more holes in it than aged cheese. It just does not add up. Yet serious actions are being taken against innocent Muslims and thousands of lives are being lost and even more are being harassed and persecuted. Why isn’t our government investigating the huge pile of evidence pointing to the Israelis and why aren’t relations between the U.S. and Israel cooled? Why? Why? Why?

Note: Please go to the following site that has links to all of the facts presented above for verification:

http://www.ivanfraser.com/articles/cons ... anger.html


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Layla you say a lot of the same things I have said. Good you have you on the board.

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I will have to check your book out for sure! We as Americans have to read more and open our eyes to what is going on in our own country. We may live here but that does not mean we are naive to what is taking place. The government and media can feed us what the want but if we do not research it then we are the only ones to blame.

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Wanna to see more on the MIC?

Defense spending

Our senate voted on the new bill for Defense spending 100 for and 0 against it. That's 100% for giving more money to the MIC and ZERO opposition.

some interesting parts

(Sec. 8024) Authorizes DOD to incur obligations of up to $350 million for DOD military compensation, construction projects, and supplies and services in anticipation of receipts of contributions from the government of Kuwait. -source

(Sec. 8082) Earmarks specified RDT&E funds for producing Arrow missile components in the United States and Arrow missile components and missiles in Israel to meet Israel's defense requirements. -source


There was this Amendment, but it got rejected.

S.AMDT.4875 to H.R.5631 To increase by $200,000,000 the amount appropriated or otherwise made available by title IX for the purpose of supplying needed humanitarian assistance to the innocent Lebanese and Israeli civilians who have been affected by the hostilities between Hezbollah and the Government of Israel.

8/3/2006 Amendment SA 4875 ruled out of order by the chair -source click Amendments and go to the very bottom of the page.

They can spend money to build missile but not to help civilians wounded or left homeless by missiles Israel used of a civilian population in Lebanon. The Amendment said SIraeli and Lebanese civilians the problem being Lebanon had 2.5 billion damages and Israel specifically targeted civilian areas where as Hezbollah didn't.

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Another excellent article in my favourites! Including Layla.

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Murdoch is not Jewish as far as I know but he is ceratinly a Zionst. It is strange because I think some of his people are both Anti-Semites and Zionist.


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yeah Layla and Ry rock.
Also, as far as MSNBC is concerned I personally think that Keith Olberman is a national treasure (USA). of course he doesn't call out all the facts and point all the right fingers but verbally he certainly does raise a middle finger which is at least more than I can say for the rest of the mainstream.

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Top 20 Defense contracts for 2005

1 Lockheed Martin Corp. $20 billion
2 Boeing Co. 18.8 billion
3 Northrop Grumman Corp. 13.7 billion
4 General Dynamics Corp. 11.1 billion
5 Raytheon Co. 9.4 billion
6 Halliburton Co. 5.9 billion
7 United Technologies Corp. 4.9 billion
8 L-3 Communications Holdings 4.8 billion
9 Carlyle Group 2.7 billion
10 SAIC 2.7 billion
11 BAE Systems 2.6 billion
12 General Electric Co. 2.5 billion
13 Computer Sciences Corp. 2.4 billion
14 Humana Inc. 2.2 billion
15 Textron Inc. 2.1 billion
16 Occupational Health Services 2 billion
17 ITT Industries 1.9 billion
18 Triwest Healthcare Alliance Co. 1.8 billion
19 URS Corp. 1.5 Billion
20 Bechtel Group Inc. 1.5 billion

Top 20 defense contracts for 2004

Lockheed Martin Corporation $20,690,912,117
The Boeing Company $17,066,412,718
Northrup Grumman Corporation $11,894,090,277
General Dynamics Corporation $9,563,280,236
Raytheon Company $8,472,813,918
Halliburton Company $7,996,793,706
United Technologies Corporation $5,056,937,646
Science Applications International $2,450,781,108
Computer Sciences Corporation $2,390,806,128
Humana, INC $2,372,078,226
L-3 Communications Holding, INC $2,260,292,852
BAE Systems PLC $2,192,647,377
Health Net, INC $1,899,824,940
General Electric Company, INC $1,822,720,199
Bechtel Group, INC $1,742,470,267
Bell Boeing Joint Program $1,539,815,440
ITT Industries, INC $1,539,742,075
Electronic Data Systems Corp $1,538,272,307
Honeywell International, INC $1,462,914,723
Carlyle Group $1,442,680,416


Top 10 defense contracts in 2002 before the Iraq war.

1 Lockheed Martin Corp. $17.0 billion
2 Boeing Co. $16.6 billion
3 Northrop Grumman Corp. $8.7 billion
4 Raytheon Co. $7.0 billion
5 General Dynamics Corp. $7.0 billion
6 United Technologies Corp. $3.6 billion
7 Science Applications International Corp. $2.1 billion
8 TRW Inc. $2.0 billion
9 Health Net, Inc. $1.7 billion
10L-3 Communications Holdings, Inc. $1.7 billion

2001

1 15. Billion Lockheed Martin Corp. 15,130,223,000
2 13. Billion Boeing Co. 13,595,338,000
3 11. Billion Northrop Grumman Corp. 11,122,116,000
4 5.8 Billion Raytheon Co. 5,875,142,000
5 5.5 Billion General Dynamics Corp. 5,213,835,000
6 3.6 Billion United Technologies Corp. 3,678,345 ,000
7 1.9 Billion TRW Inc. 1,970,383,000
8 1.7 Billion SAIC 1,774,863,000
9 1.6 Billion General Electric Co. 1,682,903,000
10 1.4 Billion Carlyle Group 1,413,968,000

As you can See every Year Lockheen Martain is at the top by a large gap followed by Boeing and Northrup Grumman Corporation. Notice that Carlyle and General Electric and Halliburton are in there as well. We are giving them BILLIONS, actually tens of Billions Almost as much as what Churches send to Israel. Please now read this

I got these figures from their own fricking websites. Go ahead and comb them with a fine tooth comb. These are not secrets. This is right out in the open. These are not secret societies, these are companies in the MIC who profiteer from war and who own our mass media.

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While we're on the subject, can anyone here give me specific amounts of money donated from churches...to specific zionist organizations or to neocon politicians who support zionism? The white house would be a great place to start. I'm thinking about filing a FOIA request.

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Hey Larry skype me I got a list of that stuff. I could not get onto RR for some reason.

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Ry you should group all your good posts on this thread and put them all on the top post and send it to alternative news sites. It's a great post.


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Since I was already here, reading all the post, I wanted to comment on a great book. I am still reading Welcome to the U.S.S.A. & if only every american was thinking along this writing. I had one small question though?
Why that picture on the back, instead of the other b&w picture that used to be, or is on this forum? I mean, it's not a bad picture. No offense, Ry, but you look like a teenager on the back. (lol) No matter, I recommend it to everyone still. Like the age & appearence matters. I just thought that the other picture would have looked better. Next book perhaps?

Oh, btw, I had to comment , it wasn't the Illuminati involved, with anything hm? From why does the media lie. I am not going to apologise , or give up on that. No proof has been offered, to show they do not exist. It's too bad, I don't see Erin 9/11 on here, posting on the forum. Like you, she has some good stuff. If you looked into individuals like Michael Tsarion more? Or Jordan Maxwell, who was interviewed by Alex Jones. On the subject of the Illuminati. & of course, that christian looney , ol' Texe Marrs that you love so much. ( heh ) Has a video that you should all see - even if just for kicks - I know how much you love bible thumping retards, but seriously.
... Isreal, America, and Russia, and Their Quest for Global Dominion
Illuminati and their agenda.

Illuminati Mystery Babylon
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... arrs&hl=en

So srry that the video is such poor quality. I have the full avi. in my shared files on WinMX. So, it's dvd quality.
Watch it all, let it finish. The parts on Clinton is a jew, & the stuff he goes on about Bush too. It' s got some interesting info. in it. After your done, let me know what you think. Mainly Ry. lol Bible bashers , hehehe..

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Why that picture on the back, instead of the other b&w picture that used to be, or is on this forum? I mean, it's not a bad picture. No offense, Ry, but you look like a teenager on the back. (lol) No matter, I recommend it to everyone still. Like the age & appearence matters. I just thought that the other picture would have looked better. Next book perhaps?


A fair question. Here is the answer. The reason I used that picture on the back as well as the reason all the pictures that should have been in the book are only footnotes is because the company fucked me over by saying all the pictures ahd to be some ridculous size like 5 mega bytes each. I had already resized my picture to be normal sizes. Thus no pictures. My camera at that time did not even take pictures so large. Thus I was in Osaka with a friend and I has a day left to send in a photo of the right size and I turned around at a cool place and said yo take my picture. His camera had the right size so that photo could be used.

I kind like that I wrote this intensive book and yet you can see a dude in his twenties on the back. Maybe I look even younger. Oh well. Next time Ill wear a suit and stuff. I didn't know my book would be so big. I just was going to sell it to friends and have a concrete copy of my blogs and work etc. But in the book I predicted the invasion of Lebanon, (as I did on the radio as well in even more detail) the legalization of torture, the sex scandals, and a war with Iran (if they hit before the AIPAC trial which seems like I am right on that was well b/c Bush already sent out Naval ships over a little while ago and they will arrive on the 21st.) Then I got hooked in with some big name people in Japan in 911 truth and I might be going on the Jeff Rense show how Irronic right, and I was just on TV in Japan.

so let that be a lesson, always be professional, you never know. Hell this site started with two people then about 12 then it sat a around 40 for a while and now thousands and has like a million plus hits a month. The 911 thing I wrote has 21 thousand unique reads on here and like about the same on my myspace and I have seen it copied on many sites I dont jknow their traffic though.

We are going to win this. You guys/gals are what make it work. Grass roots Does work and you don't have to have a radio show of a film to do it. Although we are about to break through. trust me this week I got big things planned.

Define what you think the Illuminati is and why you call them that and I will prove to you why I think its bad to use the term illuminati and why THE illuminati does not exist. The best thing you will be able to do is put a net around groups and people that already exist and have names.

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There is (has been) an Illuminati conspiracy.
I've always found that the funniest thing, that Ry, a conspiracy theorist , who is right on about the Mossad, the Zionist, & Israel, etc.. & others here too, are attacking something that is a part of the conspiracy world. Because you think, in YOUR OPINION, that it's somehow disinformation , & hurting the 9/11 truth movement. There are, 13 (+1 -14) bloodlines. Their so called " royal families ", & there are / is a list of them all. With, yes, NAMES even. Of, yes, actual PEOPLE. Rothchilds, Rockefellers, Dupont, Lei, Disney, & on down the name list. That are Illuminati.


here is my beef with calling those people the illuminati. Just call them Zionist because that is what they are. The word Illuminati has many meanings attached to it by Christian WASP groups who have made films calling them Atheists, Satanics and everything under the sun.

when someone goes to research it they are met with mountains of bullshit and people who saw a few films and became self proclaimed historical experts with smug little snitbits from the trash they were fed.

I dont care if something is a conspiracy or not conspiracies work, I have established that. But everything is not a conspiracy. The Illuminati is a blame shift created by Christian groups to take their responsibily in this mess and they are the PRIME movers in this away from their selves and on to a elite group who they them lable as their classic enemies, Atheist, Santan worshipers, the occult or anything but who they real are which would be Die hard Christians and Jews.

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dude Strauss is not anti-religious, he was all about the nobal lie and fooling the stupid people so the elite could profit. That is what a religion IS.

Do you know who financed wars before the banks? The Church

Ill watch that video i may have seen it already and Ill pick it apart. I have seen so many film by these bible thumping tards and I have the rightr to call them tard until someone will refute my why I am not a Christian rant.

By the way you will notice that Alex Jones has stopped saying illuminati and now says Neocons. 911 and the neocon agenda.

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I think we should do a convention, plan it a year form now that way it is very organized. Have debates and some key speaker. Those that say Nay please support your reasoning. And remember everyone is entitled to his or her own ideology. Thanks.
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